RIDGID R4513 Review
Now the RIGID R4513 is the recently released, upgraded version of their very popular RIGID R4510 10 inch portable table saw. Now on the face of it, it is a very impressive table saw. However information on its release does appear to be lacking which has lead to a lot of confusion amongst customers looking to buy this saw and not being sure of what they are actually getting. Asking in store at retail outlets such as Home Depot is adding to confusion, because the store staff aren’t equipped to answer customers questions and queries. If you are anything like me, you like to really do your research when buying anything and if you can’t find the information to make a decision, you’re more likely to move on and look at different product completely. I want to be confident that the tool I spend all that time researching and comparing to other similar products is actually going to be the one that arrives when I click the “Buy Now” button
So lets look at the R4513 and see if we can highlight where it does differ from the R4510.
|Assembled Depth (in.)||30.31 in|
|Assembled Height (in.)||17.32 in|
|Assembled Width (in.)||41.81 in|
|Blade Diameter||10 in|
|Maximum Cut Depth @ 90 Deg.||3.5 in|
|Product Depth (in.)||50.2 in|
|Product Height (in.)||23.15 in|
|Product Width (in.)||29.93 in|
|Table Length (in.)||30.25 in|
|Table Width (in.)||21 in|
|Blade Speed||4000.000 RPM|
|Blade guard system||Yes|
|Cord Length (ft.)||6|
|Dust Collection Method||2 in. Dust Port|
|Maximum Cut Depth @ 45 Deg.||2.25 in|
|Maximum Speed (rpm)||4400|
|No Tool Blade Change||No|
|Product Weight (lb.)||95 lb|
|Rip Capacity – Left||12 in|
|Rip Capacity – Right||25 in|
Size and Weight
So the R4513 weighs in at a pretty hefty 95 lbs. Which makes this saw one of the heaviest in the range of portable table saws but when you look a the size of the table, It offers a very impressive 30.25″ x 21 cast aluminium table Which makes this one of the biggest portable table saws on the market. Two table saws that are similar in size and weight are the DeWalt DWE7499GD which weighs in at 90 lbs and has a table size of 26-1/4 ” x 22″. The SawStop JSS-MCA weighs in at a heavy 108 lbs and comes with a 31-1/4 x 22-5/8″
Now with a table saw this heavy, It is essential to have a decent stand, and I’m glad to see that RIGID have delivered here. They have opted for the barrow type of stand where the saw is permanently attached and can be moved from transport mode to assembled mode by pressing a foot lever on the stand and rotating it from vertical to horizontal. Other saws that have this types of the stand is the Bosch 4100-09 and the SawStop JSS-MCA. This is great for moving around the job site with its 8 ” rubber wheels, as well as being good for people with smaller workshops who don’t have the space for a table saw to be set up all of the time.
Blades and Dado’s
The saw comes with a 36 tooth ATB carbide tipped blade. It’s just OK, and I would recommend getting a new better, aftermarket blade, better suited to the type of woodworking you will be doing. The R4513 does have the ability to cut dado’s and can accept a 6 ” stacked dado set with a max width of 3/4″. To cut dado’s you will need to use the optional extra throat plate, The part number for this is 089290001183 (source RIDGID website Q&A). If you want a zero clearance insert, your only option is to make your own. The blade is changed using the two supplied wrenches. The RF4513 has a rectangular throat plate. where the R4510 uses the more standard oval throat plates.
Fence and Miter
The fence on this saw is telescopic which allows you to make those wide cuts. It extends by approx. 10-1/2 ” on the right of the blade, giving you a maximum rip width of 25″ so you can cut full size 4′ x 8′ sheet materials. I like the fact that the tape on the rail extends along with the fence, which means you can continue to measure your cuts off of the rail when it’s extended. Although I know a lot of you will still prefer to measure from the fence to the blade. The fence is pretty standard, it slides easily and locks at each end when you drop the lever. I do feel the rack and pinion fences found on most of the DeWalt’s are superior, But if it moves easily, locks securely and square to the blade then what more do you need. The supplied miter gauge is good. Its accurate and runs well in the T style miter track on this saw.
As with all portable table saws, The RIGID R4513 comes with a 15 amp direct drive brush motor, which spins at 4000rom. These saws are loud, but having the soft start feature does help when using this saw. Now it appears the RIDGID have chosen to not include the soft start motor with their new R4513
Again pretty standard stuff from RIGID here. It comes with perfectly adequate blade guard, riving knife and anti-kickback pawls. It can be added and removed easily, without the use of tools. A pin fits into a notch on the riving knife and a lever on the blade guard secures it in place.
As well as the very good extendable fence. I really like the blade adjustment knob, It’s clever design allows you to control both the height and angle of the blade from one dial. By loosening the center nut, this allows you to turn the handle to alter the height of the blade. By flipping down the bevel locking lever, you can spin the outer outer wheel on the adjusting wheel to set the angle of the blade. On the right side of the blade there is storage for the supplied push stick and miter gauge.
The fence detaches and is stored securely on the right hand side of the saw. The R4510 had micro an adjustment dial on the fence. This is missing on the R4513 which is a shame.
On the left hand side of the saw, the blade guard, spare blades and blade wrenches are stored. On the back of the saw there is a 2″ dust port where you can hook up your shop vac.
Differences between R4510 and R4513
There is nothing official from RIDGID on the differences between the two saws, but it is a hot topic with people that are looking at purchasing this saw. So lets look at what we do know. There is an active discussion on the RIGID website that discusses the differences you can find it here,
- The soft start feature has been removed on the R4513
- The throat plate is rectangular on the R4513 and oval on the R4510
- The throat plate is held down with magnets on the R4513 but a spring lock on the R4510
- The throat plate is levelled with philips head screws on the R4513 but hex screws on the R4510
- The R4513 has a slightly different fence that doesn’t have the micro adjustment wheel
- The R4513 has a different design push stick and miter gauge
- The R4513 has a motor housing that bolts directly to the rack and pinion bevel adjustment that fully locks in place.
- The R4513 has changed to use plastic gears on the blade tilt mechanism. These were metal on the R4510
- Case is flimsier on the R4513
- The stand on the R4513 feels better
Having a rectangular throat plate, makes it a lot easier to make your own zero clearance inserts. OK its nice to have the micro adjustment, but realistically most woodworkers will measure from the blade ensure accuracy. Its a shame that the soft start feature has been removed
Now it appears that the gears that control the height of the blade were plastic on the R4510 and RIGID have kept them plastic on the R4513. The difference is with the blade bevel mechanism. These used to be metal on the R4510 but RIGID have opted to make these plastic on the R4513. I guess RIGID made the decision that metal wasn’t necessary for this part and have decided to save money by switching for a tough plastic. I don’t see a problem with this, as long as it doesn’t affect the use of the saw.
A lot of people are of the opinion that the case on the R4510 is better than the the R4513. This is somewhere that RIGID have decided to save money. The grey enclosed bottom on the R4510 gave a lot more stability to the saw.
Its a shame that RIDGID have omitted the soft start feature on this saw. The idea behind soft start is to protect the motor from wear and tear by gradually getting the motor up to speed over a few seconds.
RIDGID have produced a very good saw here. I think the debate between the R4513 and theR4510 will rage on. The frustration has come from people having questions, and not having people on hand to give accurate and consistent answers. There is a lot of evidence on forums and websites where responses from RIDGID seem to contradict each other. for example the RIDGID response on the Home Depot website suggests that the difference between the two models is there is no soft start on on the R4513 where there was on the R4510. This contradicts a mrmaglos response on the ridgidforum.com where RIDGID tech support supposedly said that the R4510 didn’t have soft start either so no change. This is then contradicted again with Sandyon66 where the response from RIDGID was that the R4513 does have a soft start.
The R4510 was a great saw, which was a huge seller, because it ticked a lot of boxes for woodworkers and contractors. the R4513 is also a great machine, But the changes seem to be making people feel short changed rather than pleased that they are getting the newer better saw.
I hope that RIDGID can give definitive answers to a lot of these questions to put prospective customers minds at ease, and then we can actually start to focus on the merits of the R4513.
Do you own the R4510 or the R4513? If so, Please leave a comment. I really want to get to bottom of what is happening with this saw and give anyone who is looking to buy this saw all the information that they need to make the right decision for them